Today we sit down and have a camp fire chat with Tyson Yunkaporta. With origins from the Apalech tribe in Northern Australia, Tyson is a Best Selling Author, an Artist and a Senior Lecturer at Deakin University, living in Melbourne Australia. We have an insightful conversation on First People’s philosophy of thinking, perceiving and exploring the world. We discuss how the world might benefit from the understanding of what our languages teach us and what they may lack, the importance of the communication/sharing of failures in scientific research, the role that psychotropic drugs have had in our modern technology, the difference between “increasing” and “growth”, the unfortunate split between society and nature, the law of the land and our custodial role in all of this. Throw in some Italian bees, sleeping in a hedge and a discussion on the sky camp and we have a great series of yarns … and another series of yarns to be continued.